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*From*: Robin Luiten <robin.luiten@xxxxxxxxx>*Date*: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 03:48:25 -0800 (PST)*Ironport-data*: A9a23: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*Ironport-hdrordr*: A9a23:r8WmYqO5R9XtjMBcTkqjsMiBIKoaSvp037BL7TEMdfUxSKb0qynApoV+6faZskd3ZJhko6H5BEFvKUmsg6Kcz+EqTMCftUrdyRiVxLgL1/qX/9SYIVy2ygc/79YcT0DKY+eAfWSS8/yKmTVQSOxQseVvmZrA7YyurUuFDzsaEJ2IiT0JdDpzPXcYeOAsP+tCKHPz3Lsgm9JgEU5nDfhTxUNqYwEAnbH2fCKMW29yO/fq0mizZcPC0s+EL/FQ5HduNg9n8PMZ6GDA1yb56q+gv/z+6hiZ+XTU840+oqqS9ud+*References*: <4d003c31-6b8c-4782-8885-65649ffe5fbe@googlegroups.com> <737588d7-2282-4ebb-aceb-174940a1f8ae@googlegroups.com> <0f378b2a-24d0-4821-b309-6e1366a63bfe@googlegroups.com> <e1d154c8-d6a8-40dc-be3c-33da8faf3446@googlegroups.com> <CABf5HMj5QFqdY8w=SiXrMfiCnrcYhte=cvs1Z-HBEGZ=7q_9ow@mail.gmail.com> <88a4b115-ddd8-4d36-843e-f5115812357d@googlegroups.com> <CABf5HMgx1di5rXcphy2hw+m_Fc-p28W=KxtmbcOeigxU=bXW7g@mail.gmail.com> <4a97c30c-e004-4787-b455-9392222e2dcfn@googlegroups.com> <db55b7e3-a6f5-4a81-a56f-a38ef318b577n@googlegroups.com>

I am new to TLA+ (taking another go at playing at it since my last time) and was working through the tla-video's.

I got up to the exercise related to the Die Hard Water Jug problem.

I solved it using PlusCal just to see if i could before looking at the rest of the video on the problem.

Once I had it running I went back and improved what I had created and ran into this behavior.

It appears to me the generated TLA+ is using a primed identifier when it shouldn't be.

If i swap the lines around marked "Line A" and "Line B" one oriention works and the assert for `big /\ 4` works the other swapping lines does not trigger than alert.

I did some searching and found the github issue

I did some searching and found the github issue

"PlusCal translation incorrectly depends on definition"

https://github.com/tlaplus/tlaplus/issues/338

This seemed related as it talked about primed and unprimed variables in the TLA+ translation.

This example worries me that the order of my statements in a block makes it behave different.

https://github.com/tlaplus/tlaplus/issues/338

This seemed related as it talked about primed and unprimed variables in the TLA+ translation.

This example worries me that the order of my statements in a block makes it behave different.

I have included the PlusCal code here.

Just paste it into a new spec generate new model and run it to see behavior.

The code below as pasted will not find the `assert big /= 4`

Which i believe means the line `/\ small' = big' + small` in TLA+ BigToSmall is primed access to big` which breaks it.

But swapping lineA and lineB around in the PlusCal it will stop on `assert big /= 4` behve as expected as it will use big and not big`.

```

EXTENDS TLC, Integers

\* Appears to be related issue https://github.com/tlaplus/tlaplus/issues/338

\* by reordering

(* --algorithm diehardJugProblem

variables small = 0, big = 0,

define

TypeOK ==

/\ small \in 0..3

/\ big \in 0..5

end define;

begin

WhileLoop:

while TRUE do

assert TypeOK;

assert big /= 4; \* this failing means we got to goal

either

FillBig:

big := 5;

or

FillSmall:

small := 3;

or

EmptyBig:

big := 0

or

EmptySmall:

small := 0

or

SmallToBig:

if big + small =< 5

then

big := big + small;

small := 0;

else

big := 5;

small := big + small - 5;

end if;

or

BigToSmall:

if big + small =< 3

then

big := 0; \* lineA first fails to assert big /= 4

small := big + small; \* lineB first will assert big /= 4 as expected

else

big := big + small - 3;

small := 3;

end if;

end either;

end while;

end algorithm; *)

\* Appears to be related issue https://github.com/tlaplus/tlaplus/issues/338

\* by reordering

(* --algorithm diehardJugProblem

variables small = 0, big = 0,

define

TypeOK ==

/\ small \in 0..3

/\ big \in 0..5

end define;

begin

WhileLoop:

while TRUE do

assert TypeOK;

assert big /= 4; \* this failing means we got to goal

either

FillBig:

big := 5;

or

FillSmall:

small := 3;

or

EmptyBig:

big := 0

or

EmptySmall:

small := 0

or

SmallToBig:

if big + small =< 5

then

big := big + small;

small := 0;

else

big := 5;

small := big + small - 5;

end if;

or

BigToSmall:

if big + small =< 3

then

big := 0; \* lineA first fails to assert big /= 4

small := big + small; \* lineB first will assert big /= 4 as expected

else

big := big + small - 3;

small := 3;

end if;

end either;

end while;

end algorithm; *)

```

On Friday, 5 February 2021 at 3:42:34 am UTC+10 Dan Tisdall wrote:

I'll just add this here as it may help somebody in the future track down this problem if they have a similar one. I was bitten by this today and it took me a while to find this thread which has cleared it up for me. My code had this problem and it was a bit hidden. Here is my code```rebalance1:

while(~StackIsEmpty(self)){

curr := PeekStack(self); \* Fine: there is an element for sure

pop_stack(); \* Now the stack could be empty

adjust_node_height(curr);

if(~IsBalanced(curr)){if(StackIsEmpty(self)){ \* Checks the old stack, not stack' !rebalance2: \* This whole label is unreachable!

call rotate(Null, Null, root);

return;

};

rebalance3:assert ~StackIsEmpty(self); \* Will fail because we did not early return as may have been expected```Now I know that I should either not use operators in these situations, or use additional labels.

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