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*From*: Robin Luiten <robin.luiten@xxxxxxxxx>*Date*: Thu, 30 Dec 2021 04:36:33 -0800 (PST)*References*: <4d003c31-6b8c-4782-8885-65649ffe5fbe@googlegroups.com> <737588d7-2282-4ebb-aceb-174940a1f8ae@googlegroups.com> <0f378b2a-24d0-4821-b309-6e1366a63bfe@googlegroups.com> <e1d154c8-d6a8-40dc-be3c-33da8faf3446@googlegroups.com> <CABf5HMj5QFqdY8w=SiXrMfiCnrcYhte=cvs1Z-HBEGZ=7q_9ow@mail.gmail.com> <88a4b115-ddd8-4d36-843e-f5115812357d@googlegroups.com> <CABf5HMgx1di5rXcphy2hw+m_Fc-p28W=KxtmbcOeigxU=bXW7g@mail.gmail.com> <4a97c30c-e004-4787-b455-9392222e2dcfn@googlegroups.com> <db55b7e3-a6f5-4a81-a56f-a38ef318b577n@googlegroups.com> <41971ee3-b348-4cd7-85e4-9402307d50e8n@googlegroups.com>

I forgot to mention I'm on windows 10, and using TLA+ Toolbox 1.7.1.

I did try 1.8.0 version when i saw it was out and it showed the same behavior.

On Thursday, 30 December 2021 at 9:48:25 pm UTC+10 Robin Luiten wrote:

I am new to TLA+ (taking another go at playing at it since my last time) and was working through the tla-video's.

I got up to the exercise related to the Die Hard Water Jug problem.I solved it using PlusCal just to see if i could before looking at the rest of the video on the problem.Once I had it running I went back and improved what I had created and ran into this behavior.

It appears to me the generated TLA+ is using a primed identifier when it shouldn't be.If i swap the lines around marked "Line A" and "Line B" one oriention works and the assert for `big /\ 4` works the other swapping lines does not trigger than alert.

I did some searching and found the github issue"PlusCal translation incorrectly depends on definition"

https://github.com/tlaplus/tlaplus/issues/338

This seemed related as it talked about primed and unprimed variables in the TLA+ translation.

This example worries me that the order of my statements in a block makes it behave different.I have included the PlusCal code here.Just paste it into a new spec generate new model and run it to see behavior.The code below as pasted will not find the `assert big /= 4`Which i believe means the line `/\ small' = big' + small` in TLA+ BigToSmall is primed access to big` which breaks it.But swapping lineA and lineB around in the PlusCal it will stop on `assert big /= 4` behve as expected as it will use big and not big`.```EXTENDS TLC, Integers

\* Appears to be related issue https://github.com/tlaplus/tlaplus/issues/338

\* by reordering

(* --algorithm diehardJugProblem

variables small = 0, big = 0,

define

TypeOK ==

/\ small \in 0..3

/\ big \in 0..5

end define;

begin

WhileLoop:

while TRUE do

assert TypeOK;

assert big /= 4; \* this failing means we got to goal

either

FillBig:

big := 5;

or

FillSmall:

small := 3;

or

EmptyBig:

big := 0

or

EmptySmall:

small := 0

or

SmallToBig:

if big + small =< 5

then

big := big + small;

small := 0;

else

big := 5;

small := big + small - 5;

end if;

or

BigToSmall:

if big + small =< 3

then

big := 0; \* lineA first fails to assert big /= 4

small := big + small; \* lineB first will assert big /= 4 as expected

else

big := big + small - 3;

small := 3;

end if;

end either;

end while;

end algorithm; *)```On Friday, 5 February 2021 at 3:42:34 am UTC+10 Dan Tisdall wrote:I'll just add this here as it may help somebody in the future track down this problem if they have a similar one. I was bitten by this today and it took me a while to find this thread which has cleared it up for me. My code had this problem and it was a bit hidden. Here is my code```rebalance1:

while(~StackIsEmpty(self)){

curr := PeekStack(self); \* Fine: there is an element for sure

pop_stack(); \* Now the stack could be empty

adjust_node_height(curr);

if(~IsBalanced(curr)){if(StackIsEmpty(self)){ \* Checks the old stack, not stack' !rebalance2: \* This whole label is unreachable!

call rotate(Null, Null, root);

return;

};

rebalance3:assert ~StackIsEmpty(self); \* Will fail because we did not early return as may have been expected```Now I know that I should either not use operators in these situations, or use additional labels.

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**References**:**Potentially confusing behavior of a PlusCal algorithm***From:*Giuliano

**Re: Potentially confusing behavior of a PlusCal algorithm***From:*Leslie Lamport

**Re: Potentially confusing behavior of a PlusCal algorithm***From:*Giuliano

**[tlaplus] Re: Potentially confusing behavior of a PlusCal algorithm***From:*Daniel Ricketts

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**Re: [tlaplus] Re: Potentially confusing behavior of a PlusCal algorithm***From:*Leslie Lamport

**Re: [tlaplus] Re: Potentially confusing behavior of a PlusCal algorithm***From:*Calvin Loncaric

**Re: [tlaplus] Re: Potentially confusing behavior of a PlusCal algorithm***From:*Leslie Lamport

**Re: [tlaplus] Re: Potentially confusing behavior of a PlusCal algorithm***From:*Dan Tisdall

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