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*From*: JosEdu Solsona <josedusolsona@xxxxxxxxx>*Date*: Fri, 21 Jun 2019 14:32:01 -0700 (PDT)*References*: <60418f76-0e9a-468e-b3a3-1538a3811913@googlegroups.com> <12B16AE5-A76B-47B9-A8DA-49E405CC408F@gmail.com>

Hello Stephan,

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:41:57 AM UTC-3, Stephan Merz wrote:

-- After trying many things it looks like i was missing the finite property of subsets. Also the tip about k \in DOMAIN f was crucial to finish the proof.

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Thanks for the help,

JE

On Thursday, June 20, 2019 at 10:41:57 AM UTC-3, Stephan Merz wrote:

Hello,concerning the first item, expanding the definition of Cardinality is certainly not a good idea. I suggest first proving/\ IsFiniteSet({x \in S : f[x]})/\ 2 \notin {x \in S : f[x]}/\ {x \in S : g[x]} = {x \in S : f[x]} \cup {2}then applying lemma FS_AddElement to infer thatCardinality({x \in S : g[x]}) = Cardinality({x \in S : f[x]}) + 1The first conjunct above follows fromIsFiniteSet({1,2,3})(proved using FS_EmptySet and FS_AddElement) using lemma FS_Subset. The second conjunct is trivial, and the third conjunct should be proved automatically:LEMMA

ASSUME NEW S, NEW e \in S, NEW f \in [S -> BOOLEAN]

PROVE { x \in S : [f EXCEPT ![e] = TRUE][x] } = { x \in S : f[x] } \cup {e}

OBVIOUS

Unfortunately, little automation is currently provided for reasoning about Cardinality and these steps are more cumbersome than you would expect them to be.–––Concerning the second item, inferringvisit'[k] = TRUE from visit' = [visit EXCEPT ![k] = TRUE]probably requires making explicit the fact thatk \in DOMAIN visitFor example, you can havef = [x \in {} |-> FALSE]g = [f EXCEPT ![1] = TRUE]without having g[1] = TRUE. In fact, in this example, g = f.Hope this helps,StephanOn 20 Jun 2019, at 06:40, JosEdu Solsona <josedu...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:Hello,

Im having trouble with a safety proof of a spec where a function of [S -> BOOLEAN] is updated. There are two things that bother me, they are related in some way, but i will show them separately.

1. This is relating to Cardinality and EXCEPT. Consider the following:

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S == {1,2,3}

f == [x \in S |-> FALSE]

g == [f EXCEPT ![2]=TRUE]

THEOREM Ex1 ==

Cardinality({x \in S : g[x]}) = Cardinality({x \in S : f[x]}) + 1

PROOF BY DEF S, f, g, Cardinality

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It didn't convince any backend.

I can get over it declaring an axiom like:

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AXIOM UpdateFunctionCardinality ==

\A S, f, e: (/\ IsFiniteSet(S)

/\ f \in [S -> BOOLEAN]

/\ e \in S /\ f[e]=FALSE

=> Cardinality({x \in S : [f EXCEPT ![e]=TRUE][x]=TRUE}) = Cardinality({x \in S : f[x]=TRUE}) + 1 )

S == {1,2,3}

f == [x \in S |-> FALSE]

g == [f EXCEPT ![2]=TRUE]

LEMMA Ex2 ==

/\ IsFiniteSet(S)

=> Cardinality({x \in S : g[x]=TRUE}) = Cardinality({x \in S : f[x]=TRUE})+1

PROOF BY XC, FS_EmptySet, FS_AddElement, Isa DEF S,f

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(Note that it still requires FS_EmptySet, FS_AddElement, Isa)

It looks like a hack to declare an axiom just for that (and worse, not knowing why is needed). Can this be proved in some other way?.

2. The following is a fragment of specification for the Prisioners problem

(if it isn't enough to be clear i can show more):

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<1>2. (\E x \in NonLeaders: P(x)) => Inv'

<2> SUFFICES ASSUME NEW k \in NonLeaders, P(k)

PROVE Inv'

...

<6>a. visit' = [visit EXCEPT ![k] = TRUE] BY visit[k]=FALSE, light=FALSE DEF P -- GREEN

<6>b. k \notin {x \in NonLeaders : visit[x]=TRUE} BY visit[k]=FALSE -- GREEN

<6>c. visit'[k] = TRUE BY <6>a -- RED

<6>d. k \in {x \in NonLeaders : visit'[x]=TRUE} BY <6>a -- RED

Step <6>a is GREEN, it says there is an "updated" function visit' at the end of step, with a different boolean value for k. I expect lines <6>c. and <6>d. to be true also but the prover fails. It looks pretty clear to me, so i am missing something or my approach is really naive and that's why i get stuck everywhere?.

I think it would be helpful to get some advice when handling functions with EXCEPT and Cardinality, this is by far what causes major troubles to me, as the above examples suggest.

Regards,

JE

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**References**:**[tlaplus] Reasoning with functions, except and cardinality***From:*JosEdu Solsona

**Re: [tlaplus] Reasoning with functions, except and cardinality***From:*Stephan Merz

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