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*From*: Leslie Lamport <tlapl...@xxxxxxxxx>*Date*: Fri, 14 Jul 2017 12:15:08 -0700 (PDT)*Cc*: shu...@xxxxxxxxxxxx*References*: <e41d73c5-d968-011f-6435-b75420fa126c@shuhaowu.com>

First of all, when reporting a TLC error, please include the relevant model values that produce the error.

The answer to your question is implicit in my comment in the thread you mention. Some operators in the TLC module, including RandomElement, are not mathematics. TLA+ specs should be mathematics. Therefore, RandomElement should not be used in a TLA+/PlusCal spec. Randomness is relevant for obtaining statistics. You are apparently using RandomElement to introduce nondeterminism. If you look at any examples of PlusCal algorithms, you will see that nondeterminism is expressed with the **when** construct.

Leslie

On Friday, July 14, 2017 at 11:06:52 AM UTC-7, Shuhao Wu wrote:

Hello,

I've been trying to specify a simple problem where one process writes

arbitrary data to a source datastore and a log and a second process

follows and applies that log to a different datastore (similar to MySQL

binlogs). The corresponding Pluscal implementation is shown at the end

of the email. The implementation is supposed to show a violation of the

DataOK invariance as lfread and lfwrite are two steps rather than one

atomic steps.

The idea is that the DataUpdater process will write an entry into

source. This is done via the `source[currentI] :=

RandomElement(PossibleRecords)`. In TLC, I have to specify

PossibleRecords as a set of finite number of model values. This does not

seem like it's "correct" so to speak, as it is possible for

`RandomElement(PossibleRecords) = RandomElement(PossibleRecords) ` if two

of the same values happened to be picked.

Is there a better way to specify this for TLC? I feel this may be

impossible as I can't give TLC an infinite set. *In which case: is there

a better way to model this so TLC can work on it?

Furthermore, it seems like even if I use RandomElement, the operation of

`source[currentI] := RandomElement(PossibleRecords)` causes TLC to

somehow loses traces. If I run the below algorithm in TLC with

Invariance of DataOK, I will get:

Invariant DataOK is violated.

Failed to recover the initial state from its fingerprint.

This is probably a TLC bug(1).

I see that people have reported this in the past

(https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/tlaplus/ ). However,mik45bcujtw

after reading the thread, I'm not quite sure if there is a workaround

for this. Does anyone know?

Thanks,

Shuhao

------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------

EXTENDS TLC, Integers, Sequences

CONSTANT N, Records

NoRecord == CHOOSE r : r \notin Records

PossibleRecords == Records \cup {NoRecord}

(*********************************************************** ****************

--algorithm foo {

variables

source = [k \in 1..N |-> NoRecord],

target = [k \in 1..N |-> NoRecord],

log = <<>>

;

process (DataUpdater = "DataUpdater")

variable currentI = 1;

{

duloop: while (currentI <= N) {

source[currentI] := RandomElement(PossibleRecords);

log := Append(log, source[currentI]);

currentI := currentI + 1;

}

}

process (LogFollower = "LogFollower")

variable currentR;

{

lfloop: while (Len(target) < N) {

lfread: currentR := log[Len(log)];

lfwrite: target[Len(log)] := currentR;

}

}

}

************************************************************ ***************)

DataOK == (\A self \in ProcSet: pc[self] = "Done") => source = target

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